Comments for PissedAndPetty.com http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com Taking the ball and going home. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:28:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by Been there, preached that http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1322 Been there, preached that Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:28:23 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1322 I was an Assistant Manager at Cydcor. The business is totally shady but its hard to prove because the shady part is in the "unwritten" part of the business. So many things are said to employees about money and company structure that are complete BS, but, because they are verbal and not in writing, it becomes gray and no one can really prove anything was said. There are a lot of promises that are intentionally only implied rather than written so that managers don't have to take accountability for them later on. The offices are all independently incorporated. Meaning, although Cydcor makes money off every sale made in each office, and there is a lawyer available at Cydcor to the ICL managers, the managers are left legally liable for activity in their offices. Genius on the part of Cydcor. I was an Assistant Manager at Cydcor. The business is totally shady but its hard to prove because the shady part is in the “unwritten” part of the business.

So many things are said to employees about money and company structure that are complete BS, but, because they are verbal and not in writing, it becomes gray and no one can really prove anything was said. There are a lot of promises that are intentionally only implied rather than written so that managers don’t have to take accountability for them later on.

The offices are all independently incorporated. Meaning, although Cydcor makes money off every sale made in each office, and there is a lawyer available at Cydcor to the ICL managers, the managers are left legally liable for activity in their offices.

Genius on the part of Cydcor.

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by Julia http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1321 Julia Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:46:47 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1321 Where to start...in response to all of the defenders out there that claim that CYDCOR is not a cult: Take a look at their responses and tell me how many of them say "if it were easy then everybody would do it." This 'mantra' is repeated daily to empower the paltry sales team to go out and feel great about what they are doing. I worked in a CYDCOR office in Dallas, TX for almost a year--I drank the kool-aid, was nationally ranked (according to the CYDCOR-published 'The Leader') and despite all that, I could barely afford my apartment. How much you make doesn't have anything to do with how dedicated you are, because I put in time at the office, did all the 'right things', hung out with all the other lemmings, and the money I made was downright ridiculous--and embarrassing. I worked 12 hour days M-F and 6 hours on Saturday. A $500 paycheck (on good weeks) was my reward. Mind you we were selling AT&T U-Verse door to door...no sale, no pay. If the consumer decided 5 minutes after I left from setting up their installation date that they wanted to cancel...no pay. 40 houses a day. 3 loops. More if it is an apartment complex. I learned a lot about time management, leadership, subtle manipulation, and sales tactics...but seriously--save yourself some time and read a John Maxwell book. I believe that a portion of Polaris, Inc. used to be based in Dallas under the name 'E.Q. Marketing'. These companies move around and change LLC names to get away from bad publicity on the web, like this thread. I hope this helps someone else who is getting ready to accept an interview from any CYDCOR related office. HINT: ASK if the job is 100% commission, or affiliated in any way with CYDCOR. If they dance around the question by noting that 'they will discuss more about the position at the interview' or "I'm just the hiring manager' don't waste your time. Think about it: why would someone be so hesitant to ADMIT who their parent company is? One of the 'topics' they tell their leaders to avoid on the second interview or Day of Observation is in fact CYDCOR. They don't want people to google it and never come back until they have the opportunity to present it with a positive spin. On the other hand, since you are faced with interviewing with this company and others, best of luck in the job search! Where to start…in response to all of the defenders out there that claim that CYDCOR is not a cult: Take a look at their responses and tell me how many of them say “if it were easy then everybody would do it.”
This ‘mantra’ is repeated daily to empower the paltry sales team to go out and feel great about what they are doing. I worked in a CYDCOR office in Dallas, TX for almost a year–I drank the kool-aid, was nationally ranked (according to the CYDCOR-published ‘The Leader’) and despite all that, I could barely afford my apartment. How much you make doesn’t have anything to do with how dedicated you are, because I put in time at the office, did all the ‘right things’, hung out with all the other lemmings, and the money I made was downright ridiculous–and embarrassing. I worked 12 hour days M-F and 6 hours on Saturday. A $500 paycheck (on good weeks) was my reward. Mind you we were selling AT&T U-Verse door to door…no sale, no pay. If the consumer decided 5 minutes after I left from setting up their installation date that they wanted to cancel…no pay. 40 houses a day. 3 loops. More if it is an apartment complex. I learned a lot about time management, leadership, subtle manipulation, and sales tactics…but seriously–save yourself some time and read a John Maxwell book.
I believe that a portion of Polaris, Inc. used to be based in Dallas under the name ‘E.Q. Marketing’. These companies move around and change LLC names to get away from bad publicity on the web, like this thread.
I hope this helps someone else who is getting ready to accept an interview from any CYDCOR related office. HINT: ASK if the job is 100% commission, or affiliated in any way with CYDCOR. If they dance around the question by noting that ‘they will discuss more about the position at the interview’ or “I’m just the hiring manager’ don’t waste your time. Think about it: why would someone be so hesitant to ADMIT who their parent company is? One of the ‘topics’ they tell their leaders to avoid on the second interview or Day of Observation is in fact CYDCOR. They don’t want people to google it and never come back until they have the opportunity to present it with a positive spin.
On the other hand, since you are faced with interviewing with this company and others, best of luck in the job search!

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by Marty http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1319 Marty Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:38:41 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1319 I want to thank all of you for telling it as it is. My wife has been unemployed for over a year and was so happy to have this "opportunity". Call it what you will - it is clearly a scam. They told her that she could and would earn between 35k and 55k and never mentioned having to go door to door for sales. She is a college grad with 2 degrees. She has just cancelled her appt. Thank you for saving her all the money it would take ot get there and the embarassment of it all. I want to thank all of you for telling it as it is. My wife has been unemployed for over a year and was so happy to have this “opportunity”. Call it what you will – it is clearly a scam. They told her that she could and would earn between 35k and 55k and never mentioned having to go door to door for sales. She is a college grad with 2 degrees. She has just cancelled her appt. Thank you for saving her all the money it would take ot get there and the embarassment of it all.

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by evets http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1318 evets Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:16:13 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1318 I just want to give a big THANK-YOU to everyone who put the truth out there. I too responded to a Craigslist Ad, was overly excited about the response I received about how "your past experiences and qualifications peaked great interest among myself and my associates. You should call yadayadayada to confirm a preliminary interview.", and as I was debating whether to call today or tomorrow about the interview... they called me. How desperate of them right? I DIDNT EVEN F'IN SEE IT!! I was hoodwinked from the start! My emotions of excitement over receiving my first job interview skewed my common-sense, and once I calmed down and started preparing for my interview on Friday (which I was going to drive over 2hours to Manayunk PA for) I could not find any concrete information about the damned company. Upon further interrogation, I discover the words SCAM FRAUD EVIL CORPORATION... "shit" I thought. They had me man, they got me, gave up my hopes, and if I had not discovered useful insight and information like this blog and the responses, I would have been one of those young hopefuls living a life of slavery. Thank-you again. By the way... I WANT TO TAKE THESE MOTHER FUCKERS DOWN!! Look at all of this shit, enough to file a corporate lawsuit on these companies and affiliates all practicing under the same unethical, un-socially resposible, un-human methods. Lets bring these fuckers down... Who's with me? I've already chosen this as my topic for a presentation on Corporate Corruption, and am tearing into it... Fuck the evil in this world, I'm taking it down starting here. I just want to give a big THANK-YOU to everyone who put the truth out there.

I too responded to a Craigslist Ad, was overly excited about the response I received about how “your past experiences and qualifications peaked great interest among myself and my associates. You should call yadayadayada to confirm a preliminary interview.”, and as I was debating whether to call today or tomorrow about the interview… they called me.

How desperate of them right? I DIDNT EVEN F’IN SEE IT!! I was hoodwinked from the start! My emotions of excitement over receiving my first job interview skewed my common-sense, and once I calmed down and started preparing for my interview on Friday (which I was going to drive over 2hours to Manayunk PA for) I could not find any concrete information about the damned company. Upon further interrogation, I discover the words SCAM FRAUD EVIL CORPORATION… “shit” I thought.

They had me man, they got me, gave up my hopes, and if I had not discovered useful insight and information like this blog and the responses, I would have been one of those young hopefuls living a life of slavery. Thank-you again.

By the way… I WANT TO TAKE THESE MOTHER FUCKERS DOWN!! Look at all of this shit, enough to file a corporate lawsuit on these companies and affiliates all practicing under the same unethical, un-socially resposible, un-human methods. Lets bring these fuckers down… Who’s with me?
I’ve already chosen this as my topic for a presentation on Corporate Corruption, and am tearing into it…

Fuck the evil in this world, I’m taking it down starting here.

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]]> Comment on Adventure: North Brother Island by Paulal.po http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2006/11/13/adventure-north-brother-island/#comment-1316 Paulal.po Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:41:46 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2006/11/13/adventure-north-brother-island/#comment-1316 the parks dept. WILL MAKE SURE that you don't go. the parks dept. WILL MAKE SURE that you don’t go.

]]> Comment on Adventure: North Brother Island by Paulal.po http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2006/11/13/adventure-north-brother-island/#comment-1315 Paulal.po Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:39:23 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2006/11/13/adventure-north-brother-island/#comment-1315 If you go there, watch-out for poisonous spiders, snakes, insects. its not a place for flip flops....high leather boots only. and there's no way you can sleep in a sleeping bag ON THE GRASS! nightime snakes, rats or whatever, some poisonous....you're taking a chance. If you go there, watch-out for poisonous spiders, snakes, insects. its not a place for flip flops….high leather boots only. and there’s no way you can sleep in a sleeping bag ON THE GRASS! nightime snakes, rats or whatever, some poisonous….you’re taking a chance.

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by TP http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1312 TP Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:09:20 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1312 Well said Bobby, the trick about is waiting until you have too much personally invested before you realize that the hype and dream is really a pipe dream because it is a system set up on constantly rehiring people that will stay maybe 2-3 months until they find out they are working for leaf-blower wages. So people around you are creating this I don't care, it's all about the money mentality to project the image that they are making money. Other people see this and assume if they imitate it'll happen for them too.....it's a sad cycle and happens when you are working within a pyramid sheme type office. The people at the top are making the money off constant rotatation of people and repitition of words and ideas...That's why all the interview are the exact same words no matter who is being interviewed and the results after a few months are the exact same results, no matter who is woring for them. Oh, except for that 1% out of 500 people, they're are of a special caliber of people willing to get as grimy as possible and lie to everyone in order to make that quota. Face it if you work for any one of these companies you should not consider yourself a fabulous type of person, because your already aware your job is goign to require you to lie in the face of your new hire (aka sacrificial lamb) in order to move up! Well said Bobby, the trick about is waiting until you have too much personally invested before you realize that the hype and dream is really a pipe dream because it is a system set up on constantly rehiring people that will stay maybe 2-3 months until they find out they are working for leaf-blower wages. So people around you are creating this I don’t care, it’s all about the money mentality to project the image that they are making money. Other people see this and assume if they imitate it’ll happen for them too…..it’s a sad cycle and happens when you are working within a pyramid sheme type office. The people at the top are making the money off constant rotatation of people and repitition of words and ideas…That’s why all the interview are the exact same words no matter who is being interviewed and the results after a few months are the exact same results, no matter who is woring for them. Oh, except for that 1% out of 500 people, they’re are of a special caliber of people willing to get as grimy as possible and lie to everyone in order to make that quota. Face it if you work for any one of these companies you should not consider yourself a fabulous type of person, because your already aware your job is goign to require you to lie in the face of your new hire (aka sacrificial lamb) in order to move up!

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by Bobby http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1310 Bobby Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:51:18 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1310 This place is crazy and depressing. The majority of the team, having worked there for less than 2 months, commit themselves to the over-hyped 'rah-rah, knock em dead' mentality. I would sometimes have to stop, look around and feel dizzy about the massive amount of fake-ness around me. Some of these people looked like they just wanted to just cry. The next step in the company, is when you realize that the initial hires are disposable. You are now the backbone of income; you can be fired at anytime for not making sales and/or assembling a team. You then move up the chain of manipulation and abuse. Also, you need to sacrifice enough: time (12-hour, 100 % commission-based work days), effort (walking through designated, less-than safe territories non-stop) money (shelling out travel fees to get from home to office to territory, then reverse; constantly eating out; all while getting stiffed on due paychecks) You then become 'corporate trainer' or 'lead corporate trainer' or 'associate manager' or whatever. Then, you learn how to lie to the new hires, and get them to repeat the cycle of abuse, all while keeping a positive attitude. In this office, as you observe the players that are higher on the chain, they get sleazier, faster-talking,and put up a bigger financial front (as if they're raking it in). By the time you made to Raf, Bill or Felipe's position, your morals are gone, this dishonest work is your life, and you may or may not be making the 'big bucks' constantly promised. I feel bad for those tricked into it, but I feel less bad for those have realized what it is, and continue to hack-away at this job, where nothing is contributed to society, and are to weak-willed to walk away from this possibly lucrative power trip. Keith: Your skills can be used to earn better money and karma elsewhere. This place is crazy and depressing. The majority of the team, having worked there for less than 2 months, commit themselves to the over-hyped ‘rah-rah, knock em dead’ mentality. I would sometimes have to stop, look around and feel dizzy about the massive amount of fake-ness around me. Some of these people looked like they just wanted to just cry. The next step in the company, is when you realize that the initial hires are disposable. You are now the backbone of income; you can be fired at anytime for not making sales and/or assembling a team. You then move up the chain of manipulation and abuse. Also, you need to sacrifice enough:

time (12-hour, 100 % commission-based work days),

effort (walking through designated, less-than safe territories non-stop)

money (shelling out travel fees to get from home to office to territory, then reverse; constantly eating out; all while getting stiffed on due paychecks)

You then become ‘corporate trainer’ or ‘lead corporate trainer’ or ‘associate manager’ or whatever. Then, you learn how to lie to the new hires, and get them to repeat the cycle of abuse, all while keeping a positive attitude.

In this office, as you observe the players that are higher on the chain, they get sleazier, faster-talking,and put up a bigger financial front (as if they’re raking it in). By the time you made to Raf, Bill or Felipe’s position, your morals are gone, this dishonest work is your life, and you may or may not be making the ‘big bucks’ constantly promised. I feel bad for those tricked into it, but I feel less bad for those have realized what it is, and continue to hack-away at this job, where nothing is contributed to society, and are to weak-willed to walk away from this possibly lucrative power trip.

Keith: Your skills can be used to earn better money and karma elsewhere.

]]> Comment on EMPLOYMENT SCAM: Are You Next? by TP http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/university-of-rhode-islands-ship-not-run-so-tight/#comment-1309 TP Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:16:18 +0000 http://pissedandpetty.wordpress.com/?p=162#comment-1309 WOW! Denile is not in Eygpt Keith.... I am highly pissed that this organization called me in for an interview today. As I'm reading this and recounting my experience with them, all of the "SCAM" comments are making perfect sense. It is not a pyramid scam in the sense of making "immediate" money off of others, but "setting" others up to do a repetitive thing and that thing is to "set others up". Keith your delusional and whoever "sold" you on selling yourself is brilliant because they did a great job of brainwashing you to do what you do!!! GET A HONEST JOB! WOW! Denile is not in Eygpt Keith….
I am highly pissed that this organization called me in for an interview today. As I’m reading this and recounting my experience with them, all of the “SCAM” comments are making perfect sense. It is not a pyramid scam in the sense of making “immediate” money off of others, but “setting” others up to do a repetitive thing and that thing is to “set others up”. Keith your delusional and whoever “sold” you on selling yourself is brilliant because they did a great job of brainwashing you to do what you do!!! GET A HONEST JOB!

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